the entire united states. and the sun is constantly shining on vast portions of arizona -- >> do we have the base load capacity to do that? can we load up that capacity? can we get the wind and hold. >> it's >> no. >> stoirt. that's our problem. let me go back to -- i understand your advocacy. let me go to ann. looking at this objectively, is there any way to see an alternative down in the near term to nuclear in this country? >> there's no immediate alternative, chris. especially if we're going to transition to a clean energy economy. look, we do have great wind resources and we have great solar resources but the problem is they are not what's called base load or on demand energy sources. you don't have access to them 24 hours a day and we still haven't figured out a way to build batteries big enough to store that energy. so that's one problem. clean coal doesn't exist today. coal is not a clean technology as it exists today.