that do this. partnercom recruits for small and large companies, and they're going to take fees. they may have a different fee structure for smaller companies. my only advice is go to your alumni database. high school, college, business school, other -- because i think if you have that connection with someone, it is a great place to start. many of us went to, you know, schools that have national reach, and you'll be able to sort of go in there, somebody's much more likely to return your call if you have that alumni connection. >> if you get somebody who's willing to help you -- so, you might call someone and they might take your call and might have advice for you -- how do you get them hooked so they keep giving you advice? because you don't want them on for one-off, necessarily. >> there's got to be something in for them. a lot of mentors just like giving back, but to sustain, there's got to be a reward. sometimes it's an equity piece in the business. i wouldn't start there. see if there's other things to derive out of it, revenue or maybe they're looking for contacts also and you can expand them to your network. >> all right, george writes --