>> you shouldn't be confused. >> why not. >> they are making it so americans are more efficient when it comes to energy production. solar, air, your windows, app aappliances, car, you made it it. >> if the power generation facility is belching waste, if the power grid is belching waste, if every automobile on the road is belching waste, whether i'm burning sunshine or gas, if two thirds goes out the window, isn't that a government issue? >> yes but the government is supposed to encourage people to make it more efficient. you can't do that when you are slashing 4 trillion, $6 trillion because we have a quote run away deficit. i just want to put it out there. >> you say the cutting culture is the barrier to the efficiency solution. >> i'm saying you can't have it both ways. we need to spend to have people be more efficient. >> okay i got that. >> i this is goes to the broader