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and what's unfortunate about that, i do think that we could have confirmed this, you know, views, critics of the media have, we are navel gazing, a problem in new york, or washington, it's a disaster for the world. the coverage tended to confirm that. >> imogene, your thoughts, six years after katrina? something that must have been, i think you were in the uk at the time. >> i was, yes. >> must have seemed shocking that in advance, an advanced western society, weren't of the wealthiest on earth, leaving so many literally stranded on rooftops? >> of course, incredibly shocking. why i think we saw the response we saw this weekend. moving forward hoping that positions, we would learn from the past. anyway, they and the media. >> tim carney, what do you make of, your thoughts on this as we remember katrina. obviously, it put a huge black mark on president bush's presidency in the eyes of the critics for really not being

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