the first impact, it looked as if the left hand -- the right hand tower was leaning and now somebody is saying we are getting a witness saying they are learning, actually, right now. which will give you an idea of the type of impact we're talking about. >> perhaps they are buckling under the force of the collision. and the hole that's resulting from the two planes. >> we will go to george shea right now, who also witnessed both or one of these collisions. george, can you hear us? >> caller: i can hear you. >> what did you see, george? >> caller: i was in the car, coming out of bat battery tunnel, when a large explosion happened. it was larger than a construction explosion. i looked out the window and a tire through through the ground and hit a car and there was a ton of debris falling. i jumped out of the car and ran south of the building because i thought there would be further explosion. >> have you seen anyone injured on the ground, george? >> a man next to me was actually
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