it's an apt word to use for that. >> it's an apt word in a segment we introduced with a priest. >> yes. >> i think it makes sense because, you know, your father is in effect, in political terms, a deity in the party. he's earned that position with republicans. but republicans seem to -- the current republicans seem to be forgetting how he got there. >> well, i think they're also forgetting who he was and they're forgetting he wasn't this mean, vitriolic person. you know, i also said in that piece, it was like they were auditioning for a reality show, not to be -- not to hold the highest office in the land. and he didn't have that kind of meanness. and i think, you know, this crosses the political divide. we are looking for someone who doesn't want any part of that. well maybe not the people who applauded.