only for the retirees and the employees. solely for the participants, not for the companies or shareholders or top executives. >> it's a benefit if you work there and provide labor, in principle. >> it's deferred compensation. >> you're being paid for your work later. >> yes. and that should be protected, but it isn't. so -- >> like i said, sounds like social security. >> but, jimmy, social security, i think people can -- >> but there's no one else seeing -- >> i guess when it comes to whether it's state governors using state pensions to be free spending to get re-elected or corporations that are doing what is being described to us here today, who is the gatekeeper in the current model in the government that theoretically would intervene? would this be the attorney general in a given state? eric holder? who's the cop here? >> from the federal level, it certainly would be the ag. certainly, state ags could go after companies that are headquarters in their states or
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