you've described as far as what was in the room and the condom court and ju catheter on michael january jack sob son, these are taking place simultaneously? >> yes, going back to physically what happened. you indicated the children to leave the room, is that accurate? >> yes, sir. >> conrad murray then as you are coming back tells you michael had a bad reaction? >> yes, sir. >> did he then instruct you to take some viales or do something with some vials. >> he reached over and grabbed a handful of vials and reached out to me and said, here, put these in a bag. >> where was conrad murray when he did that? >> he was kneeling down here in this area here. >> okay. and you've indicated the area to