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because of the arc the campaign took, but certainly there were discussions about whether if they were to win it would be appropriate for her to be sworn in." steve, did you participate in any of those discussions? i've never heard anything like that in a presidential campaign. >> well, first off, it's a great book. nicole's a talented writer. and i'll plug it for her. people should go read it. it's really a fascinating look behind the scenes, of course, of a fictional account. look, lawrence, during the campaign after the economy collapsed we were essentially out of it. we were never closer than six or seven points again. but if the question is did all of us and a bunch of us who had been around the west wing of the white house, did we see behavior that we found deeply troubling? and the answer to that question is yes, we did. did we talk about it? yes, we did. you know, was there, you know, legal considerations? no, there were not. but did we talk about a pattern

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