and yet we have a pretty terrible relationship to guest worker programs historically in this country. the real question is does the program, does that solution protect the worker as well as it protects the employer? that program is really designed to protect employers from being sanctioned and fined. no one has ever gone to jail for hiring undocumented immigrants, but from that, too. but from my perspective, any migrant, any immigrant has to be able to own their own visa. they have to be able to move from employer to employer. they have to be able to fight abuse by their employer, if they need to organize in their workplace or form a union, they've got to be able to do that. those kinds of rights are not guaranteed in this led card plan. they really don't have any interest in protecting the rights of the immigrant really just in protecting employers. >> so the one possibility, the one possible good news here is maybe there will be a