concerns about someone who goes too far on the social -- >> talk about the events. what events have you been to? what's been your reaction? are you following newt around? >> a little bit. interviewed romney, interviewed santorum. santorum had a smallish crowd, but interesting and engaged. he talks a long time. he is very -- as you know he -- is very washington in that he talks like a member of congress. >> you said something that everybody else is telling me off camera. and when you talked about how santorum had a small crowd and talked a very long time, john heilemann laughed because there's this take, andrea, and i'm hearing this. if you told me this senator, this ex-senator that still hasn't focused on his campaign message that still has small crowds would be jumping to the front, i wouldn't believe you. but it's not like santorum's wowing them like mike huckabee did.