i take him at his word that hess ooh a chingd paern and not attacking him on that basis. i'm saying this is a guy who never has run anything. i don't think on-the-job training should be the president of the united states. he's done great things for our party over the years and for our country. the fact of the matter is, i don't believe his record stacks up to governor romney's record in that regard. >> what about this electability question? you heard what i challenged speaker gingrich with which is there is this view in the party that if gingrich keeps on going and if he consolidates support among conservatives, this is the best news for president obama possible. is that your view? >> my news is the worst news for obama is a romney candidacy. with the values he's been articulating as a candidate, the best contrast we can have to president obama, i think governor romney would be the worst news for the obama white house. >> do you think a candidate, a