on that. i think these candidates, especially the president are so well advised to do that kind of quiet interview rather just the pounding of the lectern. it comes across so well there, doesn't he? >> he comes across as he always does as the grown-up in the room. the republicans want to paint him as the divisive figure. look at the two republican candidates who are in the lead. what could be more divisive than that? >> chris -- >> patrick, the fact that newt's been able to survive. let me ask you. i want to give you an opportunity. i'll tee this up. the fact newt gingrich has done so well. he may be out of this in two or three weeks but in it for a while now. the fact he can sell as a front-runner with the republican electorate tells you how angry they are, maybe how over the top they are to the point they can't think right. newt can't possibly be president, can he? by any standard. >> well, clearly i expect that barack obama is going to continue to be president after the november election, but let's