out. but if rick santorum wins mississippi and alabama, wins kansas, wins missouri, i think there'll be much more pressure for gingrich to get out than there has been and i think he might. >> why would he get out? there's another reason, steve. people get out because think they'll maybe be part of the next administration. he knows he's not going to be part of the administration. >> but people also run out of money. and that has changed now with the super pacs and all of these financing rules. if you have the money, if you can fly around the country, get on national television for 45 minutes and have everybody watching you, give a history lecture, why not? stay in. going out there and saying your message. >> right. because rational arguments don't apply to newt. he has a bigger mission and he's going to pursue it. you worked with him more closely than any of us. so you -- >> listen, well -- newt does believe, and by the way, i'm not mocking him for this because as