political debate, it's not like we're progressing in leaps bounds toward making things safe. you can see that in the total lack of action by congress. you can seeรง it in the behavio of the administration. about year after the bp oil spill we had the top offshore drilling regulator from the obama administration, a guestsh. that interview did not go well. he appeared on the show in order to defend new rules his agency put in place in the wake of bp disaster. a new rule is the oil company states which containment systems that will have at the ready in the event of a blow out. this is an emergency system to cap a leak. you have to say what you use. one of the containment systems was something called helix. listen. >> we now have a very different set of containment equipment and