for their records. i think there's a very conservative military community that does not like him and going to speak out about him. it's not john kerry. they're not saying he lied about his personal record, about his medals. >> and the rationale is a no-brain no-brainer. people say obama's handling of terrorism is a reason to put him back in office. republicans are seeing those numbers and know they need to go up with ads like this. >> the swift boat stuff came out much later in the race. the fact this stuff is coming out now is a sign of the nasiness to come. >> the swift boat ad changed the trat jectory of that race. there are some dangers for obama on this but not really. the swift boat ads, those were so personal. you can't take away from obama what happened under his watch. i think that people just normal everyday people walking around are grateful for that. there's no way a republican ad is going to change that. >> there's an argument every time you talk about killing osama bin laden, that's better than talking about the jobs numbers. >> but the question is, to what extent the fact that he did kill