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driven by a woman that the children saw there for over an hour and they never found it. i don't know if they looked for it. but it certainly had nothing to do with ed ates. >> was that a red herring to you or interesting to you? >> it was very interesting. that probably was the murderer. driven by a woman and yet, every woman ed ates knows was accounted for. >> in other words, he says, paul duncsak was likely killed by an unknown intruder, maybe a robber caught in the act who then fled without taking anything. the lawyer says the testimony of the victim's fiancee supports the theory. she recounted on the stand that paul said something like, oh, no, into his cell phone just before the line went dead. he never identified ed ates. >> paul didn't know the killer. if you're facing someone killing you and you have that cell phone, wouldn't you say the person's name? if you are looking at someone

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