it's also legislation that reempmented as governor of massachusetts. a buffalo business man, proud republican and a man who ran for new york governor in 2010. good afternoon, sir. >> good afternoon, martin. >>รง let me begin if i claim something that you yourself said the last time you appeared on our broadcast. take a listen, sir. romney calls himself severely conservative. is he conservative to you? >> about as conservative as you are, martin. no. he's not conservative. >> you are a committed conservative. but do you honestly feel, how do you honestly feel about mitt romney? who implemented the exact same health reform as the president has now done, but now says he hates it and he himself is a severe conservative. how do you honestly feel about