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generation to go and cozy up with the president of the united states. >> would it be -- is it the reason for why you will not go there tonight because you know that he is not a severe conservative. he is not a man of conviction and you know that and you're too honest and -- >> not at all. >> to go and see him? >> no. that's not the case. nope. i'm highly supportive of mitt romney's candidacy. i want him to win. and i would have been there had we not scheduled this appearance on your show. instead, by son is there and we're highly supportive and we're extending funds in for the party as our other businessmen for the community as is their responsibility to support a good person to take over the reigns in washington, d.c. >> even though, sir, as you yourself admit this man is not
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when he was governor there. might be called romneycare. it's very awkward for governor romney to say with a straight face that obamacare does not deal with preexisting conditions when he knows. he must know that that's one of the corner stones of obamacare. it's tell insurance companies you've got to take people who are sick even though you may want to avoid them. right now under the law, many insurance companies can can avoid sick people. once obamacare and once effectively theç affordable ca act goes into effect, those people and those insurance companies will have to take sick people. they'll also have to do a lot of other things they don't want to do. in massachusetts under romneycare, might as well call it obamaneycare. they're basically the same thing.
mitt romney is shufing to an expensive fund raising event in buffalo. his day began with a room full of millionaires in manhattan, his so-called victory breakfast. but for all the time spent raising cash in quiet rooms, the candidate has done virtually nothing to connect with actual voters. consider monday's immigration decision. a mixed bag politically, but one you might think a republican candidate for president might want to address publicly. not so according to the junior mouthpiece given the job ofç communicating mr. romney's non position. >> does he say he has no opinion? >> yeah, i'll say it again and again for you. the governor understands that states have their own right to
him? >> i think the reality of it all is that it's going to take a moderate person to win this election to beato bam. and in my mind and in the mind of most western new yorkers, that's the objective. mitt romney can do that. he's a good man. he doesn't necessarily carry real conservative values on his sleeve, which is fine with us. >> good. thank you for admitting that, sir. thank you very much for admitting that he does not carry conservative ideals on his sleeve. can i ask you why you're not attending the fund-raiser this evening, sir? >> so i could be on this show with you, martin and my son is attending in my place. >> i'm sure you have enough time. it's only about eight minutes to five on the westç coast. can you really not get to the fund-raiser this evening? >> no, it's time for the next
important question because we're all looking at what does this mean for his re-election. there's something more important than re-election and that is what does it mean for his presidency? had it gone the other way on health care, you'd say the signature achievement of the last four years is çgone. you could really say this guy is on the run. it's a much stronger presidency right now. it has actually achieved something in these last four years. i can't help but belief that helps the president in november regardless of which side it gives the energy to. but there is something more important than politics. that is governor. thank you all. next, boehner and the boys have scheduled a pointless vote on health care. nice work, boys. now take another week off. stay with us. >> back away from mandates at a national level. >> i like mandates. >> beg your pardon?
is is the person who has tried to win elections by scapegoating gay and lesbian people, immigrants in this country. he is the guy who is all about fear mongering, so of course he is going to attack a breast cancer survivor if he thinks it's going to get a few votes. this is where the tactics are going to meet up with the reality of the law. >> thank you so much for joining us this afternoon. coming up on "hardball," who sees the health care issue as a winner in 2012 in the president, romney or neither? next, mitt romney and a chamber of commerce survey lifts a suspect as the candidates campaign. remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. stay with us.
it's also legislation that reempmented as governor of massachusetts. a buffalo business man, proud republican and a man who ran for new york governor in 2010. good afternoon, sir. >> good afternoon, martin. >>ç let me begin if i claim something that you yourself said the last time you appeared on our broadcast. take a listen, sir. romney calls himself severely conservative. is he conservative to you? >> about as conservative as you are, martin. no. he's not conservative. >> you are a committed conservative. but do you honestly feel, how do you honestly feel about mitt romney? who implemented the exact same health reform as the president has now done, but now says he hates it and he himself is a severe conservative. how do you honestly feel about
importantly than he does the politics and at least somebody in this town is doing çit. >> it's a relief. professor dyson, much like mandates going back to what's happening in colorado, mitt romney was a believer in manmade global warming before saying he didn't know what caused it and offering no plan to control it. as we suffer under record heat here in the east, as we've watched colorado burn under drought conditions, how smart of a flip-flop do you think romney's performed on this one? >> look, the science of it is real. we used to you know, joke with george w. bush about his inability to acknowledge that the science matters, the facts mattered, not one's opinions. i think mitt romney is just showing his points that in their exposing vulnerable here, it's about the science, baby and the science wins out and it shows us that we are suffering under
product. i mean, no country has as large a health care budget as we do with as many people and as large a percentage of population going without any health insurance. >> romney says that he'll repeal obamacare and replace it with some of these key provisions. watch this, sir. >> we have to make sure that people who want to keep their current insurance will be able to do so. got to make sure those people who have preexisting conditions know they will be able to be insured and something obamacare that does not do that must be done is helping lower the the cost of health care and health insurance. >> professor reich, he's just ticked off three critical aspects of the health care law that's just been upheld by the supreme court. does this man even know what's in this law? >> he must know what's in the law because the law is very much modelled after the law that he passed and signed into legislation in massachusetts