incredible conversation and they shied away and hid from it. >> the amazing and comical thing about the akin fiasco it immediately kind of undressed paul ryan. here he was, out there, the clean-cut, cooler, more, you know, of today running partner of mitt romney and romney i think really went to ryan because frankly, he had been seen as such a wimp after the whole disastrous european tour that i think that he really felt the right wing of his party said you need an attack dog, someone with edge, that's not going to stand there and you have to have someone more aggressive. he gets paul ryan. everything seems like it's going well and then the akin thing and it's totally undressed paul ryan. >> can't get rid of him. undresses him. >> i think sam before you go to richard, sam is about right. it's hard to say with just one poll here that somehow or another paul has been damaging to the ticket or todd akin -- the todd akin thing is a disaster for republicans and romney and ryan handled it about