should make us pause and say why then the constant unabated calls to see president obama's even after he's -- >> if you really want to go back there. >> exactly. and i think that's precisely where -- first we want to pause and say romney has told us an awful lot about the birther movement itself simply by making that statement. i think the other thing we want to remember here is this wasn't a scripted moment. we talk a lot about dog whistles and playing to the base and that sort of thing. in an unscripted moment, a so-called making a joke, that's not so much about a ploy or play, that is a revelation about what the candidate themselves is actually thinking. so i think both -- it reveals something to us more insidious about romney's belief. it's not just he's playing to the right. it's that he, too, finds it kind of funny and amusing to realize we have taken the legitimate president of the united states and spent four years questioning his american citizenship.