are vice president and president of the united states. thank you all very much. >> ohio governor john kasich. always a very animated speaker. his tendency to ad lib. i'm going to assume when he said mitt romney will make a shinier america and that joe biden is a bad golfer, that those were ad libs. but other than that, i think it was a good speech. i'm sitting between reverend al sharp on the and joe schultz and i felt that both men were about to pop at moments listening to that speech. let me go to chris matthews first. chris? >> well, i thought it was a barn burner. i've always liked john kasich. i thought one thing about him, he's a working class guy who's had problems. he lost his parents in a terrible accident. the guy comes across in one way "romney can." he's saying what i've done before, i'll do now. i've been a good, tough governor on job creation, etc., etc. we can check the numbers. but at least he's proud of what he's done as governor. if he were running for president, he'd be in great shape. romney is not proud of his