he's not going to raise the rates, meaning he is not going to raise taxes on anyone. but he is going to lower the deduction capability at the upper levels, not the middle class, and he is saying he is -- by putting people to work with dynamic scoring, which i think is very important, and that brings in the revenue, the old fashioned way with people working. >> dynamic scoring. that's always the bane of the congressional budget office existence. senator kay bailey hutchinson republican from texas always a pleasure to talk to you in the morning. thanks for coming on. >> thank you, chuck. >> wall street continued an upward climb thursday. how will the market react to the psychological drop in the unemployment rate? that is next. plus you have to hear it to believe it. that al gore presidential debate analysis. rarified air. that the reason for obama's rocky road in denver? we'll have a little fun there. first today's trivia question. name the last president to win