>> gene kirk patrick being the star of the world. >> that's not going to them back to power either. they need to appeal to hispanics and need to figure out how to integ rate all of the different wings of the party in a way that expands beyond aging white men. their party has become ate old party. it doesn't cut in anymore in america. that's what this election showed. >> let's talk about what let's talk about that. can you, joy, see around the country and look at what they pretty much a white party but a lot of that in all fairness has to do with the fact we have an african-american president and there's going to be loyalty on that side to him, the first person always benefits tremendously from group loyalties. if we had a white liberal running as a democrat instead of an african-american liberal or progressive, whatever the