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officials refused to hand over information about handgun owners to the paper despite new york law saying that information is part of the public record. mary ellen o'dell is the putnam county executive. mark green is a radio talk show host and former public advocate of new york city. miss o'dell, if i were to walk into the office where those records are kept as a citizen of that community, i imagine i'd get access to them. so why shouldn't that same right extend to the local newspaper? >> well, it's a -- that's not really i think a fair example of what we're trying to argue against today. you know, we're really looking at this as a privacy issue. we're looking to make sure that our constituents' safety is primary, it's paramount to us in putnam county. most of our residents are law enforcement or first responders. we have a lot of veterans and, you know, we want to make sure that their families are safe and themselves, that they're not put at risk because of this. and i just want to say on the other side to this, it's not just about those who follow the process and who legally have

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