president had consulted with the national action network. tamika and i had been there. i was there and sat behind the families from newtown. and it was probably the most moving thing i've seen. particularly when he talked about the young lady, grace, and her parents were sitting right there. >> oh, my gosh. >> it was a moment that you remember the rest of your life, and i hope the nation never forgets. it was a great day. >> so we're talking about the emotional force of that story, and can it move gun legislation, tom brokaw, the kind of the magnitude that the president has proposed? can it move it forward intact? >> i was listening to my mentor, richard haass, in the earlier hour. and i thought that he summed it up, as i just told him, very well when he said this is a real intersection in contemporary political life about whether the national interests will be able to override the single interests