clinton, and is he talking about erskine bowles as chief of staff to bill clinton. you are absolutely right. paul ryan could have delivered erskine bowles and could have made it difficult for the president to walk away, but he gave the president -- >> this is a weird obsession with trying to, like, play the clintons off of the obamas, and republicans love doing this. the idea that they would have been, you know, kind to bill clinton or hillary clinton had they been president is laughable. >> all the guys saying this, so many of them voted. for impeachment. he would have solved the debt kritsdz. >> they'll be all over him. >> in 2008 hillary knew that, and she used to hammer obama on this. she would say they're not going to be nice to you just because you talk about post partisanship. they're going to be cruel and mean just like they were to my husband. maybe she would have understand it better. >> you saw this during the campaign. this attempt by the republican party to latch on to the coattails of the clinton legacy, right? remember when mitt romney kept saying it was so great when bill clinton was president. you do realize that bill clinton