and spouses that last lasted longer than the principles. let's watch. >> we both built some pretty thick skins. you know, sometimes our staffs don't go through that. they are taking umbrage and offense. hellry handled this, i assume as i do, we have a block, a screen, from a lot of the sillyness that happens during presidential campaigns. >> what about the spouses? is that an impertinent question? >> what i was going to say is having been a spouse and having been a candidate, i think spouses take it much harder. >> so, chuck, how is joe biden feeling today? >> we're trying to see if they peeled him off the ceiling after he found out this was going to happen. >> the reason the president wanted to do this, and the reason he thought he owed her a public thanks is i got two names for you. john mccain, the other is ted