imminent specific threat. and that is according to a lot of legal experts a real stretch. and there is a lot of concern even from the white paper that michael unveiled. that's why this has become so controversial. this is a hearing where the last thing they wanted was this much controversy and argument over these issues on the eve of the confirmation hearing for john brennan. >> do they think that they are essentially ensuring that the confirmation hearings aren't going to be all about this? because at least the senators will have confidential access to classified information that the public doesn't have, and so that will be discussed in closed session. the public session there can be about more public matters, something other than this? are they trying to clear this off the decks for the public hearing? >> absolutely. they're trying to take this out and take some of the sting of the hearing. there are going to be some other issues. he answered questions they has posed, and today revealed he has