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atrophying of intransigence, are we just in a different place? or are they going to kind of come back and try to gum up the works through this amendment process? >> i think the thing is that this, the bill even in the best case scenario for democrats to pass is the lowest-hanging fruit, the most modest of the, of various things that obama has proposed that gun control advocates have proposed. but it's also the way these things change, is not in one session of congress. it's over the long-term. you see pat toomey sticking his head out a little like what's going to happen when he's up for re-election in pennsylvania. over the next few years that some of the republicans who have been a little soft for the gun lobby here, who are going to get challenged from the right. who are going to take flack from the right. but who are also going to run in general elections and use this to their advantage. this is that image that you guys have up of pat toomey and mansion is going to be his re-election commercial in pennsylvania. where ed rendell for years ran successfully against the nra. >> even then i was talking to some democrats who were praising

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