aren't leaving because they're not getting along with a particular member. they're leaving maybe for personal reasons, whatever. spend more time with their families. the biggest obstacle right now is it's not a fun place to work. it is more divisive. i saw it firsthand. more polarize, incredibly difficult to get things done because the party thinks it compromise is a four-letter word. >> no. >> i think there's a dilemma. >> look at max baucus, for instance, he didn't even vote for the gun control bill that harry reid wanted to push. what you're actually seeing a a little more independence from folks and i think it comes down to relationships are part of it. no question that relationships between democrats and republicans have frayed, as people get on the nearest flight to get out of town and don't hang out with each other as much, don't build friendship, families aren't friends. you have an example of a democratic leader in the senate doing a terrible job of convincing his senior democrats to run for re-election. >> it does seem a little