state like florida. you name the issue. if you talk about background checks, if you talk about him being one of three or four senators that stopped the budget process dead in its tracks after we finally got democrats to do what they did. now we're talking about shutting down the government. as richard burr said, not only is it stupid politically because democrats would love that, it's going to be ineffective. we won't get what we want any way. >> i think the white house is guttering for that fight. they would like to have the potential shutdown fight with the republicans this time around. and i'm with you. i think that's a dangerous game to play under these circumstances given where we are. and i think what's striking to me about rubio's position is, yes, he's now paying a price for being so out front on immigration, but that can change. we have forgotten that it wasn't very long ago when the imperative for the republican party was not just to get right