including us on the "washington post" editorial page, but i think it befits a president who sees what's happening in the world, doesn't exactly know because we've never been down this road before. the freedom and people rising up in these countries that you're showing on the map here. this is what you want from a president. someone who sees things happening, that takes very considered steps, and the other thing we have to keep in mind, it might not look like the united states is doing a whole lot overtly in this region, in this region of the world. but you got to know that the united states is doing a whole lot of things covertly behind the scenes, out of the public view to gain intelligence, but to also help friends and destabilize enemies. >> i agree. by the way, gentlemen, can you imagine what the right wring challenge would be the attack on the president had 9/11 occurred on president obama's watch? >> president obama's watch? yeah. >> of course --