know, i knew it was very dangerous, but i was like challenged to also be a part of that. you know, she came on the scene when i was trying to put my hand in the wax. and you know, she wrapped me up in her arms and took me home. and you know, i got the belt. i got the whipping. lula mae had high standards. and she wanted me to be independent but not irresponsible. >> wow, i'm going to leave it right there till we do the panel. thank you, steve. we're going to come back with the panel. straight ahead, stevie will be with us again. stevie wonder, y'all. coming up, cory booker on advancing the dream in politics. and stevie and magic back on stage in moving forward.