>> if we know that they're lying about all these other things, why not go back and say, well maybe the first scandal was a lie, too? >> there you go. i'm all with you, so let's go back and revisit some of these things because americans have question about not only the irs scandal, but also about the president's validity. >> howard, you know, there you go again. you can't keep him away from this. it's like chocolate candy or something. the minute we get anywhere near, there's one put in front of him, mention anything, they go right back to birtherism. there is a crowd, the guy that was on the other day, that wouldn't admit the president was elected legitimately. obviously they think he's basically a fraud. and donald trump called him a street corner con artist. this lingo. i'm sorry, it's very hard to read people's souls, but would they say it about a white guy? it always seems to hit me they think of him like an indian in the old days, a lower caste, an untouchable. oh, i was ten feet the other day and i felt sick. i couldn't stand looking at him. this caste they treat him as,