mock the idea of taking threatening rhetoric seriously is a literal mistake if you like. hitler is close to unique. fair enough. >> close to unique. but here's the question, what does taking rhetoric seriously mean? i think you and i in the abstract can agree, taking rhetoric seriously, but when taking rhetoric seriously, and this is invoked in the -- the leaders saying israel being a barking dog. taking the rhetoric seriously is then an indication they aren't serious about diplomacy which is then used as an argument that there's a military solution as opposed to a diplomatic one. right? >> no. out just says it's part of the equation. and, you know, to be honest, one of the things that's a little shocking, is to hear how often people have welcomed the mushy, fuzzy, vague rhetoric of rowhani