we see him from the time he was in a tribe in rural africa to his imprisonment to becoming to first black president in south africa. >> sounds like you've seen it. >> i have. i interviewed the cast. it's an amazing film. >> historically, what is something like this do to a film's run at the box office? >> i asked the weinstein company are they expecting the film to get bigger numbers? right now, it's only in four theaters so the numbers are staying the same. but i think at christmastime, you will see droves of people come out when it has a national release, a big, wide push. people will come out and want to see this film to honor nelson mandela, to honor his legacy and pay tribute to him. that's what this film does. >> chris witherspoon, always good to see you, thank you. >> thank you. >> with more now on the cultural and political influence of nelson mandela, i want to bring in the "brain trust." esther arma, dana milbank with
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