for people in -- for tatars because they remember how their grandparents' homes were tagged similarly. >> it's important, i think, for folks, the history here. we've been talking about crimea historically russian and given to ukraine. it's actually before the russians the tatars were there. it's historically tatar. it was a muslim nation that they lived in. >> well, historically there were tatars there for many, many hundreds of years. there were also -- the peninsula actually switched hands many times throughout history. >> and they have only in the last 20 years kind of come back. >> that's right. >> and already before this crisis, there was already kind of a crisis because these were people who had been essentially