am i right to say it is about to get more boring than it has been? >> yes, we're about to go further into the weeds of how do you design a really good website, what do you have to do to make sure it's vibrant and people want to come and shop? what do you have to do to get cost control to work? those tend to be in the weeds and can even bore my children. i think you're right. >> were the republicans right to say that if -- and the conservatives more broadly -- were they right to say that if people didn't sign up, that if the numbers stayed as bad as they were when the websites didn't work and the first couple weeks when nobody was really signing up. if those numbers stayed terrible, in actuarial terms the whole system wouldn't work. the whole idea of obamacare would fall apart? were they right to warn about that? >> yes. that is true. if you don't have enough people in the system, it will collapse of its own weight and other exchanges and other places did collapse and, you know,