point of getting a websiitness a witness who's clearly an insider under oath, that is an indication of significant movement in the process. because you don't do that at the everywhere beg very beginning. the feds don't get people in there to ask questions sort of randomly. they've done a lot of homework before bringing him in. it's part of a detailed roadmap down to the street address and the apartment number that hay are using in conducting this investigation. so whatever governor christie may have thought about where things stood last week, i think we all know that this is serious business and seriously frightening business if you're somebody who thinks they may be in the target zone of this investigation. >> mr. drewniak, his lawyer was very clear on this. we should be very clear. there's no indication that he is a target of the investigation. his lawyer is saying he's simply there as a witness. but as a matter of procedure, somebody called to testify before a grand jury, even just as a witness as mr. drewniak apparently was, do they have a choice about whether or not to