the question, andrea, that i'd like to ask you, according to your sources, the sources you've spoken with, some of which i've spoken with do they think that edward snowden realized the totality of what he had? >> they do. they think he was deliberately going in and as they put it scraping and taking. they still don't know, and this is what's really extraordinary. we've talked to people, our consultants and others who are still in the government. they do not know what he took. they are estimates it's 1.7 million documents. they know what they accessed. they don't know what he took. what we have confirmed is he did do three lectures for the defense intelligence agency as he claimed to brian. he did three lectures. one in japan focusing on cyberattacks. how to defend and protect against cyberwar, particularly from china. so he had a fairly sophisticated knowledge. even though at one point he took and aced i'm told a very big