diminished or challenged the entire coalition risks collapse. >> you guys read this. it was -- >> i did. >> it was actually fascinating where they went through all the problems president obama has had getting an agenda through, also polling numbers, his polling numbers are down on issues democrats aren't that strong and the point of this is, yes, the democratic party is in great shape if hillary runs, but if she doesn't the deluge begins. >> fascinating the difference between the democratic bench and the republican bench because the democrats have hillary clinton and then after that, you kind of go off a bit of a cliff who's next. republicans have a much broader array of people who actually are plausible. but it's going to be hard for her, hard for her running on the backs of a second it term of a presidency that hasn't gone as well as at least some of us would have hoped.