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be running for reelection and at this point it's a stabilizing vote that the leadership wants to stay in a place where they just don't make too many wave, right? that was part of why mccarthy ascended in the first place because they didn't want a huge shake-up to disrupt what they have going on until january. >> kate, let me ask you a follow-up question since you're underneath the cap toll dome. how did scalise win this? to what degree stutsman was a kingmaker and gave his vote to rosscum or scalise? do we have a read on internal mechanics. i know they don't release the final vote tally, but do you know anything about what happened in that room? >> i don't know anything about the mechanics and the details and i know that scalise walked in with all ofs this whips and supporters behind him sort of as a show of, hey, look at everyone i have, and i think that really what it came down to was just as

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