was nominated in best actress. she's been a guest on nerd land and was on the cover of "time" magazine and she told "time," quote, most of us have living visibly and pursuing our dreams visibly so people can say, oh, yeah i know someone who is trans. when people have points of reference that are humanizing that demystify difference. that can be the power of the personal narrative. joining the table now is piper kerman whose memoir "orange is the new black" who inspired the series and through popularity of her own series brought to light the problem of this country's mass incarceration. we thought we would pause for a moment and ask how you see personal stories and courage to tell particularly the tough stories, ones people don't want to hear as potentially transformative for politics. >> it's so important. because for so many people, the