terms of going to congress, when the executive branch decides to give -- share its information with the intelligence committee, it can share it with a very few members who are on the committee who cannot share it with their staff or with other members. >> that's true. >> which means, in fact, congress has no ability to conduct its own independent review and to find out whether or not what you've been told is true. meanwhile, there's like eight or ten or whatever of you who get this information and can't tell anybody while there are tens of thousands of people in the executive branch who have this -- >> we need a public debate. i'm for it. we should but dianne feinstein -- >> that is why we're having the debate, but richard, how are the teams doing? >> thanks, andrea. so our instant poll question was this, has edward snowden harmed the national security or served the public interest? you can see it's pretty evenly bamed but mostly leaning toward serving the public interest. when we pel up the gender