it's not just that they are being racially profiled. it's racial profiling that's funding the towns that they live in. there's a a very serious revenue incentive there when you have a town of 21,000 people that budgets perspectively collect 2 2.7 million in fines and fees from their municipal courts. and i would say this is not just about ferguson. it would be a mistake to focus the attention solely on ferguson. >> i want you to say more about that in terms of what you know of the region. are these abuses limited to ferguson or how widespread are they? >> i mean let's not pretend. this is a region wide problem, it's an american problem, frankly. this is happening in georgia, it's happening in mississippi, it's happening in alabama, it's happening in california. we have effectively criminalized being black and being poor in
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