harmful, which could get out there. >> yes. well, joining the roundtable, i'm there would to be joined by political activist and legendary singer/songwriter carole king. jonathan capehart and susan milligan. he did let some stuff out that may have hurt us. >> i come down on the side of he's not a hero. i see him as somebody who was very careless. he had a point to make. i pont i think needed to be made that we need to look at this and have a debate, but i don't think he did it in a wise way or a helpful way. >> i agree with carole. i've written about this many times. people like to compare hem to elsburg who leaked the poej papers. he never left the country.