and donates cars to the tulsa county sheriff's department, and then somehow he has access to the most dangerous part of police work. this was an undercover gun buy. the guy did sell a cop a gun. that's not where you should have reserve deputy sheriffs. >> no, and also -- yeah, the confluence of america's broken finance system, like pay to play policing really sounds like a dystopic vision. >> now maybe he would have done that without giving all that money, but it's a strange coincidence. it is that, isn't it, in policing? >> that actually -- that arrangement isn't that uncommon. part of what comes around with these sort of reserve deputies a lot of times, they are contributors or supporters of the sheriff in question. >> is there any defense for this program at large? why should we have part-time hobbyists running around as part-time police officers? >> they're not all part-time hobbyists. it bridges the gap between police and the community. it reminds the public that the