pinckney and the incredible display of unity of people of charleston, the surrounding region. all there to celebrate the life to mourn the death and also to try to move forward and this is one of those steps moving forward. i wanted to get your thoughts on this day just what it means to you to see this flag come down and also you knew reverend pinckney personally. what you think it would have meant to him to see this flag come down. >> well clearly -- >> i think it would have meant -- >> rick? >> yeah. clearly this is a very defining and special moment in south carolina and certainly for me. i was chief of staff for the lieutenant governor and worked in the capitol when the flag actually flew atop the state house. and i saw that flag every day. and so i do think that this is an opportunity, a first step in the right direction for south carolina to heal. we have a lot of work yet to be done. i believe if senator clementa
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