after another ceo after another ceo they say why don't do you zero base budgeting? why don't they justify every year what they spend. >> that's right. you now hoe iknow how i'd get t. i'd tell them to take out their smart phones. do you believe we need to know where every dollar is being spent. spend one for yes, sir and two for know. they will vote one for yes and that puts pressure on the be political system. technology is a great tool that can be used to re-engage citizens if the process of the government. it's also a weapon that is being used against us as we know from all the data breaches from the chinese and hillary clinton, of course, doesn't understand that technology well enough to know that her server has most assuredly been hacked because secret service agents can't protect it from being hacked. >> carly, it's willie geist. we were talking about your